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Chelish Bastion by butterfrog Chelish Bastion by butterfrog
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A sample map I did for portfolio, this one is the first finished (digital and crispy) reticulated map I do ever.

I was given a pencil sketched version of this map to do a final version of it for reviewin. The location is a Cheliax prison used in a PFS scenario.

Personally I liked this one but it may have ended up looking very "video-game" like, which means no outlines or little "hand-made" look. I do like it but is not a style you see often in tabletop RPGing. Now I see it and I'd like to add more dreesing, like torches or maybe more detail on the water... but this is not wise "business-like speaking", 'cause time is money and this one has already more time on it than it should.

Anyways, I think I'll continue using this style and try to find a name for it in case a client wants his stuff looking like this :D
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djkester Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014
Really great map. :)
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :)
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MusingStar Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011
Nicely done.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
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abellius Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011
Map commissions!!
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As soon as I have some more time :D
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abellius Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011
I think there may be potential income there for GMs like myself depending on your fees.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
so far I've been told that I have good (cheap) fees, sooo.... ;)
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AngelicAdonis Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Very nicely done! :D
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks again!
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AngelicAdonis Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You're welcome! :D
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TwinAgateDragons Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Looks great as usual butterfrog.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gracias as usual too :D
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Kalebold Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011
Very nice map. May I ask what pathfinder scenario it is from?
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually I don't know, what I know is that its was writen by Larcifer
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TheGreatNickInTheSky Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Professional General Artist
Very cool stuff!
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :D
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TheGreatNickInTheSky Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Professional General Artist
you're welcome :)
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Theocon Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
NICE!
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
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Broadshore Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sweet
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks :D
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zylphryx Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
definitely a nice looking map. I think you would definitely get that balance you're looking for with the room content graphics (torches, furniture, etc). But as you said earlier, time is money and you do need to have balance there as well.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
time -and practice- will tell
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jingobingonfinky Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
Nice, crisp and clean, looks good.

As for style, well, interesting. If you are ruthlessly clinical and precise, and remove all fluff, its theoretically possible that you end up with an output that someone could engineer with some of the popular mapping tools available. They can produce quality pieces, but, for my money, they lack that certain artistic warmth. They are great, don't get me wrong, but I think someone with genuine artistic skill can trounce them with flair and originality that you just can't get with a cookie cutter tool ( unless you start dropping in your own custom art pieces in ).

When you need it to earn a living, things come down to a time and money study. I guess the question is, you can labour at a work of art and create a map - and have it clinically precise - that it ends up in a style not dissimilar from a mapping tool - Would it be quicker to do it in a mapping tool - and more pertinent - could someone of less skill produce a similar result in a mapping tool. Or can you produce something with unique flair that cannot be reproduced in a tool, that clearly puts you a cut above the rest, and do it in a time - and a final style - that makes commercial sense.

Don't get me wrong, your work rocks. I am just idly considering the artist vs machine art production values. I think as art tools become more and more automated and skilled at producing art, there will be more of an overlap of the output between a machine tool and a talented artist. I think what I am saying is, if you have the skills, you shouldn't try to copy a clean machine created output - you should let loose with your talent and do something unique. I am just being general here, not particularly pointing at this piece - its just your own thoughts on it have kinda got me thinking about the differences in style.

I guess a lot of it comes down to repetition. The product pipeline gets quicker, more polished, the more you do it and learn from each production.

I have pretty poor art skills, but something I have learnt is that there seems to be a wrong way to do something and a right way - in so much as using computer tools. The wrong way takes you all day to achieve something you are kinda happy with. The right way takes 5 minutes and produces something cool. And generally its just down to knowing what works well and helps, and what doesn't work well and should be avoided. I think a lot of that is involved in mapping - for me anway - as quite a few elements can be helped out with efficient tool usage.

Anywho what do I know, I don't commission maps for commercial consumption !
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You have an excellent point here, there's no point in doing crispy stuff that looks like it was done on a map tool software. I guess that's why big time companies hire cartographers that do it all digitally hand-made. I still like this style thou maybe I shoud find a balance between digital and original/unique so that it still looks digital-crispy and also unique, non-software tooled.

Thank you for the feedback, its very appreciated!
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nomog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
I think this maps looks great! I like it how the floors below are made transparent, this makes it much easier to read the map.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yup, is a bit more work but I think its worth it :)
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rvernon22 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
Very nice, I like the new maps you have been posting.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Glad you do! I still have a couple more in storage waiting to be uploaded soon :D
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ashenbach Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
I think it looks awesome!
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
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TheJade1 Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011
Lovely work!
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks Rone!
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arguskos Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Student Writer
Beautiful! I definitely hope to see more maps of this quality in the future.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks!
If I only had more time... ;)
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arguskos Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Student Writer
Out of curiosity, would it be possible to see a version of this map without the key and letters marking individuals? I'd love to use this in one of my D&D games (your art often finds its way into my games, it's perfect for NPC visuals!), but that key would confuse my players.

If not, hey, 'sall good man. Still a lovely piece.
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butterfrog Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its doable, thou remember this is Copyright from Paizo Publishing LLC, so if you download it for "closer inspection", remember to keep it 101% for yourself or else we'll get beaten and thrown into a deep and dark legal dungeon ;)

Stay tuned.
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